In John 10:10 Jesus promises His followers abundant life. This blog is about my life as His follower.
Tuesday, December 15, 2009
Should we bring terrorists onto US soil?
Should we relocate detainees at Guantanamo Bay to a prison facility in Illinois?
This is certainly a question on my mind today.
Like many Americans, I've been spending some time thinking this past year about if the CIA did indeed engage in torture against war criminals, and if we should move prisoners out of Guantanamo Bay. These thoughts are especially paramount today since one of the lead Yahoo news stories today began by claiming that:
"President Barack Obama has ordered the federal government to acquire an underused state prison in rural Illinois to be the new home for a limited number of terror suspects now held at the U.S. detention facility at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba."
Don't you just love what counts as news?
Never mind that this can not really happen until there is a majority support for this in congress. Later on in the Yahoo article they did mention that:
"Administration officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, said they could not yet lay out a time frame for when a transfer of detainees from the Navy-run detention facility to Thomson. They said the administration would have to work with Congress to amend laws and secure funding before any prisoners are brought to U.S. soil."
Guess that initial statement was to grab my attention.
I'm here thinking about this whole situation. I'm remembering that since he first got into office, President Obama has been been wanting to close down Guantanamo Bay. Not long after he was elected as President, he was quoted as saying:
"But I don't want to be ambiguous about this. We are going to close Guantanamo and we are going to make sure that the procedures we set up are ones that abide by our Constitution,".
One of the initial big issues was that the former, Bush, administration was criticized for allegedly torturing people at Guantanamo Bay. What has always concerned me about this whole issue is that we all agree that torture is wrong. We just don't agree about if what occurred at Guantanamo Bay was indeed torture.
"Experience indicates that the use of force is not necessary to gain the cooperation of sources for interrogation. Therefore, the use of force is a poor technique, as it yields unreliable results, may damage subsequent collection efforts, and can induce the source to say whatever he thinks the interrogator wants to hear."
This past spring Clifford May wrote on an interesting article for National Review that gives you some of his perspective on if the CIA did torture people. He basically makes the point that if there really had been evidence of illegal (remember torture is illegal) actions that there's been ample opportunity for prosecutions since 2003 and the reason that there have not been any is because nothing illegal was going on. He also raises an interesting point that the Bush administration did keep this country safe from terrorism due to information gained during interrogations.
By far my favorite look at this topic was presented by Engram on his blog Back Talk. Engram makes the point that basically all Americans will say that torture is wrong, but the issue comes in when we set about trying to define torture. Engram points out that he thinks it's even more important to the conversation to clarify what is not torture.
But, weather one believes the CIA did engage in torture, or one believes their behavior did not meet the definition of torture, the question is still if we should continue to house the detainees at Guantanamo Bay.
What do you think - Should we make necessary adjustments to the Thompson facility and bring some, or all, of the Guantanamo Bay detainees to Illinois?
I'm just grateful to God for His goodness to me and want to live my life following after Him. I've been blessed with 3 awesome sons and in July of 2005 I remarried. My husband truly knows me and still loves me - how much more blessed could I be!
I'll never forget the trouble, the utter lostness, the taste of ashes, the poison I've swallowed. I remember it all—oh, how well I remember— the feeling of hitting the bottom. But there's one other thing I remember, and remembering, I keep a grip on hope: God's loyal love couldn't have run out, his merciful love couldn't have dried up. They're created new every morning. How great your faithfulness!
I'm sticking with God (I say it over and over). He's all I've got left. God proves to be good to the man who passionately waits, to the woman who diligently seeks. It's a good thing to quietly hope, quietly hope for help from God. It's a good thing when you're young to stick it out through the hard times. When life is heavy and hard to take, go off by yourself. Enter the silence. Bow in prayer. Don't ask questions: Wait for hope to appear. Don't run from trouble. Take it full-face. The "worst" is never the worst.
You have made known to me the path of life; you will fill me with joy in your presence, with eternal pleasures at your right hand.
Jeremiah 29:11 For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future.
Perceptive words spread knowledge; fools are hollow—there's nothing to them. GOD can't stand pious poses, but he delights in genuine prayers. A life frittered away disgusts GOD; he loves those who run straight for the finish line.
So this is my prayer: that your love will flourish and that you will not only love much but well. Learn to love appropriately. You need to use your head and test your feelings so that your love is sincere and intelligent, not sentimental gush. Live a lover's life, circumspect and exemplary, a life Jesus will be proud of: bountiful in fruits from the soul, making Jesus Christ attractive to all, getting everyone involved in the glory and praise of God.